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If it seems like Scarlett Johansson’s been kicking ass on screen non-stop in recent years, you’re right. A slew of appearances as Black Widow, a Luc Besson adventure in “Lucy”, and now the eagerly anticipated “Ghost in the Shell” (out this Friday) might make you forget the 32 year old started out an indie darling with films like “Ghost World” and “Lost in Translation.”
This week she joins Josh on the podcast to reflect on her unusual career trajectory and also confess “mama’s tired”. So while yes, she’s shooting “Avengers: Infinity War”, don’t look for her to sign on for another ass kicking heroine immediately.
Johansson talks to Josh about early days growing up in New York, how Woody Allen changed her career, and why she could have been known as Scarlett Schlamberg.
Later in the show, Colin O’Donoghue visits “Happy Sad Confused” to chat about his much obsessed over show, “Once Upon a Time,” singing in an upcoming episode, and his new film, “Carrie Pilby”.
Colin O’Donoghue is well-known for his role as Captain Hook on Once Upon a Time, but now he’s taking on a different literary character. The Irish actor stars in Carrie Pilby, the movie adaptation of Caren Lissner’s best-selling novel about a 19-year-old genius who graduates early from Harvard and struggles to come into her own in the rambunctious city of New York. While his character, Professor Harrison, seems sweet and charming at first, his true colors are revealed when he starts a relationship with the title character. We had a chance to sit down with O’Donoghue ahead of the film’s premiere, and he talked about what it was like taking on the morally ambiguous character, the importance of women in film, and how appreciative he is for his fans’ unwavering support. Warning: light movie spoilers below!
POPSUGAR: What drew you to the script?
Colin O’Donoghue: I signed up early on. I got sent the script and pegged for it then. I work on a show called Once Upon a Time, so I really wanted to play somebody who was so completely different from the character that I play day in and day out for nine months of the year. It’s also really rare that you get such a great script and a great character and a great cast that shoots in the period when I would be available, so I was really, really drawn to that.
PS: Professor Harrison is pretty much the complete opposite of Hook in that he starts off as the good guy and then becomes the bad guy, whereas Hook starts off as a villain and slowly morphs into a hero. What was that like playing a character who you know isn’t going to be redeemable in the end?
CO: The thing was that I knew he was never going to be redeemable, so even when you think he’s being a good guy, he’s not. That was fun because I wanted people to feel like it might be genuine. As an actor, it’s always important to play against the actuality of what you’re doing. I didn’t want it to feel like he was really sleazy with her; I didn’t think that would work to get the payoff of really seeing what a nasty piece of work he is in the end. You need to believe that he’s a decent enough guy and has real feelings. I’ve been lucky on Once with [Hook], because I’ve gotten to play so many different aspects of the character, but this is definitely different.
PS: The film is also getting a lot of praise for its largely female production team. What kind of message do you hope that sends?
CO: It’s an important thing in cinematography in general to recognize and appreciate women in film. I grew up in Ireland, and it’s not something I ever thought about until I came to work over here [in the United States]. I realized just how unequal it is. To have a movie like this, which is a really lovely film, entirely about this incredible woman and directed by Susan [Johnson], who is just an amazing director — it’s a fantastic thing. But the fact that it’s even a conversation blows my mind. That it’s not just a given that it’s just a movie about a character directed by a director, which is the way it should be. The fact that we have to qualify that is where the problem is. Women are brilliant, if not more brilliant than men. It’s about the quality of work that’s produced as opposed to the sex of the person who produces it.
PS: I know a lot of Once Upon a Time fans in particular are eager to see you in this movie. What does that fan support mean to you?
CO: I’m blown away by the support. It amazes me because I became an actor because it’s really all I can do. It gave me an opportunity to be someone else for a while. I was a very shy and quiet person and it gave me an opportunity to come out of myself a little bit. I never expected to 1. actually get a job and 2. have fans who would just come and see something. To have that support is incredible. It’s a testament more so to Once Upon a Time and the writers than to me. They managed to create a show that gives so many people so much hope. That’s what the show is all about. Often times nowadays, shows try and be gritty — which is incredible, I love those types of shows as well — but it’s nice to be a part of a show that’s unapologetic about wanting to be a good show and show people that there’s hope in the world.
Carrie Pilby will open in limited release on March 31 and will be available to stream on April 4.
“Josh doesn’t do well with no sleep,” Once Upon a Time‘s Ginnifer Goodwin says of her on- and off-screen husband, with whom she has two young sons. “And neither does David,” Josh Dallas adds. And thus sets the stage for this Sunday’s episode (ABC, 8/7c), in which Charming aims to settle some unfinished business while his misses continues her unbreakable slumber.
As revealed earlier this season, the death of David’s father, long-ago back in The Enchanted Forest, may have been no accident. So while Snow White remains zonked by a sleeping curse, Charming will set out to uncover the truth.
“He’s got so many things that he wants to fix before she wakes up, so he stays up a little longer than he should,” Dallas shared with TVLine during our visit to the Once set this week. “That erratic, up-all-night, haven’t-slept-for-days kind of takes over David, and he becomes single-minded in not only trying to save Emma [from Gideon], but trying to figure out the truth of his past. He’s visited by the ghost of his father (played by Van Helsing‘s David Cubitt), and his past is not what he thought it was.”
Charming, though, will need a helping hand (singular) in his mission, so he turns to a certain resourceful buccaneer. “He forces Hook a bit into helping him,” Dallas says, “and thank god he does, because Hook ends up saving him in many ways, and forcing him to see clearly.”
Hook, in turn, sees an opportunity to prove himself more than a pirate to David, whom he just might be thinking of calling “father-in-law” at some point.
“Hook knows that he wants to be with Emma,” Colin O’Donoghue explains, “so he kind of wants to get David’s permission to propose to her.”
But as seen in promos, things between the gents get tense, possibly derailing Hook’s bid to repair his reputation. “Yes, something will bite him in the butt…,” O’Donoghue hints.
In the end, though, what Charming comes to discover will have significant ramifications. “It changes the course of his life from here onward,” Dallas teases, “because he thought it was one way and it was actually another.”
Surveying the two-hander (as it were) as a whole, O’Donoghue says, “It’s always great to have two-person scenes on the show, and it was great to have those scenes with Josh, and really get to explore that relationship of Hook and Charming.
“I’m hundreds of years older than him, but I want him to be my father-in-law,” the Irishman notes with a laugh. “And we’re friends, we’re not friends…. It’s complicated, so it’s really good!”
Warning: This story contains major spoilers from Once Upon a Time‘s midseason premiere. Read at your own risk!
The years have been unkind to Wish Realm Captain Hook!
During Once Upon a Time‘s midseason premiere, Emma (Jennifer Morrison) enlisted the help of Pinocchio (Eion Bailey) to build a new wardrobe, thus providing a portal back to Storybrooke. However, with a bounty available upon Emma’s safe return to the Wish Realm castle, a familiar face was all too quick in attempting to “rescue” Emma so he could claim the reward. Her supposed hero? Captain Hook (Colin O’Donoghue).
However, this wasn’t the Hook that Emma (or OUAT fans) remember. Like most others in the Wish Realm, Hook actually aged, though he definitely did not keep his figure — the pirate’s penchant for rum didn’t serve him well.
“It was one of my favorite incarnations of the character,” O’Donoghue tells EW. “It was great because the guys were like, ‘Look, you’re going to be old, fat, and just a crazy version of yourself,’ and I was like, ‘Okay!’”
It took roughly two and a half hours in the makeup chair to put together this new version of Hook. “I hoped it would take longer to make me look like that,” jokes O’Donoghue, who explains that the look was created with just makeup, not prosthetics.
“It wasn’t until I got the makeup on and the hair and the costume that I figured out who he was going to be,” O’Donoghue says. “I really wanted him to sound like Hook, but different, older. It was just funny. He was a big bumbling idiot. I wanted him to be a complete contrast to who Hook is at the minute, but also he, in his mind, believes that he is God’s gift to women and that he has this fantastic debonair air about him when in actual fact, he’s just a mess.”
Seeing the creation come to life was a treat for Morrison. “It was so fun,” the actress says. “He had such a good time doing it. We’ve been calling it Old Hook. It’s a really fun exchange where we come across him and, obviously, Emma is trying to stay serious, but it’s pretty funny because she knows that the repercussions of this aren’t real, as long as we get out of this realm. But maybe we should lay off on the alcohol a little bit.”
Once Upon a Time airs Sundays at 8 p.m. ET on ABC. Read our postmortem with Morrison and executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis on Emma surviving the prophecy here, and read our postmortem with Kitsis and Lana Parrilla about Robin’s return to Storybrooke here.
This Sunday at 8/7, ABC’s Once Upon a Time is heading 20,000 leag—, er, many fathoms under the sea, as Hook crosses paths with another famous seafarer — while in present-day Storybrooke, the pirate grapples with his decision to deceive Emma, by holding onto the magical shears with which she might ultimately excise her Savior status.
“He loves Emma and is obviously very concerned for her. That’s his whole reason for keeping them,” Colin O’Donoghue explains to TVLine. “He sees this as a way that he can protect her and save her from dying,” should she choose to abandon her role as a seemingly damned Savior.
“Hook knows that deep down, he’s sort of betraying her,” the actor continues, “but he’s doing it in his mind for all the right reasons — much in the same way that she kept him alive when he said he wanted to die, in Camelot, rather than become the Dark One.”
As Hook conceals his guilt, he will flash back to his first boarding of the Nautilus, the submarine helmed by Captain Nemo (played by American Crime‘s Faran Tahir), as revealed in the exclusive sneak peek below:
“Nemo wants to try to enlist his help for something. And Hook being ol’ Hook, it’s very difficult to get him to go anywhere without forcing him to do it!” his portrayer observes with a laugh. “That’s why he is brought there at harpoon-point.”
Once properly introduced, the two captains arrive at “a weird sort of mutual respect,” O’Donoghue previews. “Hook, who at that point [in his life] is quite a selfish person, sees that Nemo has a way about him that he respects. So he ultimately wants to ‘honor his wishes’ in a sense.”
As for these flashbacks’ overall purpose, “There is somebody on Nemo’s crew that Hook has a history with,” O’Donoghue teases, “and that speaks to the bigger picture of why the Nautilus and Nemo are on the show.”
Meanwhile in Storybrooke, Hook’s complusion to keep a secret from Emma could not have come at a less opportune time, given the to-Hell-and-back strides they have made in their relationship, most recently culminating in the decision to live together. “It’s something that will weigh on him quite heavily, but he’s doing it so that he has a ‘get-out clause’ for her if worse comes to worst.”
Whether or not this deception marks a longterm setback for Hook and Emma, O’Donoghue has been quite pleased with Killian’s growth since first crossing paths with the Storybrooke heroes, especially as he does what he can to right his (many) past wrongs. Case in point: the olive branch he recently extended to Belle, who on more than one past occasion was assaulted by the pirate.
“For this version of Hook —Once Upon a Time for the Hook who wants to try to be a hero, who wants to try to do his best for Emma, who wants to be integrated into society — [the détente with Belle] was very, very important,” says O’Donoghue. “The way they’d written the scene was very good, and I always have fun with Emilie [de Ravin].”
Alas, such developments are cold comfort to the “Captain Swan” fans who for so long have hoped for a truly happy ending, and now must sit and wait to see if Hook’s lie sinks their ‘ship. To that fretting following, O’Donoghue can only offer this: “If you watch on Sunday, you’ll see how things come to a head… and perhaps get resolved.”