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The world of Once Upon a Time has once again expanded with the introduction of the Land of Untold Stories.
Unleashed by Hyde (Sam Witwer) in the finale, these new characters “have left their own stories for various reasons — they didn’t like how they ended, they didn’t like how they were going, they needed to be on the run,” executive producer Edward Kitsis explains. “Emma [Jennifer Morrison] and the heroes are going to have to help a whole bunch of people finish their story.” Those in need include the Count of Monte Cristo (Craig Horner), who will appear alongside newbies Jafar (Oded Fehr) and Aladdin (Deniz Akdeniz) — the latter whose tale will explore savior mythology, as we see the toll that role has taken on Emma.
Despite an influx of new faces, the season really puts a focus back on small town stories. “Snow’s [Ginnifer Goodwin] coming to the realization that there is no definitive happy ending — this is their happy ending,” says Kitsis. But questions about Charming’s (Josh Dallas) past create “unexpected obstacles to that happy ending they’re all trying to live,” EP Adam Horowitz adds.
Meanwhile, the inner demons Regina (Lana Parrilla) has been grappling with come to life — literally — in the form of the Evil Queen, who sets her sights on thwarting their happy endings once and for all. “She is absolutely going to be as evil if not more evil than we remember,” Kitsis says. Pro tip: Avoid apples! Below, Kitsis and Horowitz tease what’s in store for each character in season 6:
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What can you tease about the Land of Untold Stories?
EDWARD KITSIS: They are mostly filled with stories that have yet to be told. [Laughs] In all seriousness, the Land of Untold Stories is populated with folks kind of like what we hinted at in the season 5 finale, where we saw Dr. Jekyll (Hank Harris) and Mr. Hyde. They’re characters who we haven’t touched upon in our show, and – for whatever reason – have found their way out of the Enchanted Forest or whatever realm they were living in into this other place. What we’re going to see is that they are a bunch of characters who have left their own story for various reasons, so they didn’t like how it ended, they didn’t like how they were going, they needed to be on the run. We’re going to have little fun visual piece: When you’re at Granny’s, you should be able to see come characters you normally wouldn’t on the show.
So while Hyde was very happy to unleash the Land of Untold Stories, there may be characters who are not happy about it?
KITSIS: Absolutely. There are people who ran there for a reason and were content with it. There were people who were frightened. What it does is it puts us back in a situation where Emma and the heroes are going to have to help a whole bunch of people finish their story.
Tell us about some of the new faces we’ll be meeting this year as a result.
KITSIS: We’re seeing Jafar. As we’ve already shown in a little clip from the premiere, he’s a bit of a scary fellow who seems to be somewhat cold-blooded. We are going to learn a bit about the state of Agrabah, and what his role in that place is, and how that connects to the Once Upon a Time spin on the Aladdin/Jasmine story.
What can you tease about Aladdin?
KITSIS: As we showed at Comic-Con, we teased that he was the Savior. So we can say that through Aladdin we might learn a lot more about Saviors. We are going to be seeing a lot of our version of Aladdin’s story in the first five episodes.
And Jasmine (Karen David)?
KITSIS: Our version of Jasmine is a story that we also are beginning to explore within the first five episodes. We learn a lot about Jasmine, but our Jasmine hopefully fits the mold of the princesses on Once Upon a Time as she is very strong, and has a very important goal in mind, something that she’s trying to do that’s not just about romance with Aladdin or anything like that. She’s a princess with a mission.
And you’ll get more into Hyde?
KITSIS: We definitely hinted that Hyde and Rumple had a backstory, and we are very excited to show what that is. We will be doing our version of Jekyll and Hyde within the first five.
How does Jekyll feel about all of this?
KITSIS: I’ll tell you how he feels: frightened. Jekyll is very frightened, he came here looking for refuge, and his worst half is out there trying to kill him.
We’ll also meet Morpheus (Giles Matthey).
ADAM HOROWITZ: Well, that I think the premiere will explain itself. Our take on Morpheus and what we’re doing with that character is unveiled in the premiere.
KITSIS: And it probably isn’t what you think it is. Well, if it is what you think it is, you really caught us.
HOROWITZ: There are some surprises in store for Morpheus.
And for the Count of Monte Cristo?
KITSIS: Well, the Count of Monte Cristo is a perfect character for the Land of Untold Stories. We are going to find out why he ended up in the Land of Untold Stories, why he ran there. He has a very interesting connection to a few of our friends in the Enchanted Forest.
Because of the Land of Untold Stories, will we see untold stories from characters we already know?
KITSIS: We’re going to see that the Queen has a connection and a tie to the Count of Monte Cristo, and that that’s one way you’ll see that these stories start to tie into the Once Upon a Time world in a very strong way.
KITSIS: We have Archie (Raphael Sbarge) coming back.
HOROWITZ: Emma is going to be his patient and he’s going to be helping through her difficult times. Dr. Whale is coming back for an episode.
KITSIS: It’s a cameo, it’s a small thing, we just love David Anders.
HOROWITZ: Well, let me put it this way, we’re going to have Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, there has to be a mad scientist convention.
KITSIS: Let’s just say mad scientists get together.
Let’s turn to the main characters. What are we seeing for Emma this year?
HOROWITZ: Emma is going to be dealing a lot with what it means to be a Savior, the mythology behind being a Savior, how that ties in to her growth as a person and how she’s been coming into her own over these last five seasons. It’s going to be front and center.
KITSIS: We’re going to further see the toll all this fighting is taking on Emma. We know that she had a very troubled childhood, we know that she spent her whole life searching for her family, but in the last five years she not only found her family, but she discovered she was a Savior, and we’re going to see the toll that all of this has taken on her.
HOROWITZ: Yeah, that’s one of the questions we’re interested to explore this year, which is what happens after five seasons — five seasons of fighting, snow monsters, and going to Neverland, saving everybody’s lives, and going to the underworld and back — what does that do to a person? What does that level of responsibility and power actually do to someone? That’s the jumping off point for Emma this year.
How about for Snow White?
HOROWITZ: The story that we’re trying to explore there is what happens to Snow White now after all these years, after the curse is broken? After last year, she decided that she’s not Mary-Margaret anymore, she is Snow, and she is the ruler of these people. She is in charge of an entire kingdom, and now she wants to find some level of normalcy. What does that mean? How do you find that? How do you rule?
KITSIS: She’s coming to the realization that there is no definitive happy ending — this is their happy ending. Although she’s Snow White, she wants to be Snow White in ways that don’t always involve fighting a bad guy in a far off land.
HOROWITZ: The Evil Queen cannot just be hovering out there and not be menacing. Charming has always had questions about his family and his father that he thought were answered, but he’s going to be taken down a path that could very much lead to — Charming’s past becomes something very important to his future, and I think we’re going to see him and Snow embarking on some adventure related to that past, and what that’s going to create for them moving forward, which is some unexpected obstacles to that happy ending they’re all trying to live.
KITSIS: We’ve seen a lot of growth from Regina. We’ve seen her fight her inner demons. We literally saw her split her inner demons. So Regina is going to face the toughest villain she’s ever had to face her entire life, and that’s herself.
The Evil Queen?
HOROWITZ: Part of what she’s going to be dealing with is she’s been stripped away of what she thinks are her weaknesses, which is the Regina part of herself. That seems to clear her up to be unrepentantly evil and bad, which is freeing and exciting for her. But at the same time, she also is Regina, she also is Henry’s (Jared Gilmore) mother — she loves Henry, she has that part of her as well. We’re going to be exploring the complexity of what does it mean when you separate these halves, can you really separate them, can part of you actually be completely good or evil or is it more complicated?
KITSIS: And she is absolutely going to be as evil, if not more evil, than we remember.
Zelena (Rebecca Mader)?
HOROWITZ: Zelena is also going to be wrestling with who she is and who she wants to be going forward. I think that being a mother has affected her, and has made her grow in some ways. But at the same time, Zelena is the Wicked Witch. She is wicked. That is a part of her. She’s done terrible things. She deals with the terrible things she’s done, but maybe not all characters are on a path to redemption. Maybe embracing the wicked bit is who she is, and that is not going to be easy for everyone in town.
KITSIS: For the Wicked Witch, she’s always wanted a sister, and now she has two to choose from.
Rumpelstiltskin (Robert Carlyle)?
KITSIS: Rumple last year declared the truth, which is he likes being the Dark One, he likes the power, and he wants Belle (Emilie de Ravin) to love him for who he truly is. We know that they’re in a bad place, and I think it’s only going to get messier. Rumple and Belle are at a crossroads. They have a child and I think there’s going to be a lot of headaches for the two of them.
HOROWITZ: What’s interesting to the two of us about Rumple is as dark as he is, he does love Belle. That is one of the things that he continues to wrestle with, which is last season we saw him trying to admit who he is and not apologize for it, but going forward, he also reveals the fact that he does love Belle. So how can he reconcile those two parts of himself that seem to be at war with each other?
KITSIS: Belle right now is in Pandora’s Box, but we’re hoping that she gets out, and if she does, I think that we are going to see her having surprising friendships with somebody. At the same time, I think Belle is also on a search to find her place. She doesn’t want to just be tied in with Rumple. She knows she has this child, and she’s wrestling with the idea of how is she going to be able to handle this? Her feelings toward Rumple are ones of anger, but yet they have this child together. So for the rest of their lives, they are all tied together, and that messiness and her future are what are on her mind right now.
KITSIS: Henry is growing into a hero, and I think that’s what we’re seeing. We’re going to see him back at school, we’re going to see him back in operation with Emma, and he is growing into his role as hero and author.
Will that operation have a name?
HOROWITZ: There is a new operation name and it will be revealed in the premiere.
How about for Hook (Colin O’Donoghue)?
HOROWITZ: Last year we saw Emma saying I love you to him when they weren’t in any danger, so Hook is excited to progress that relationship. At the same time, he is on his path of redemption, and we are going to see Hook doing his best to be heroic this year. We are planning to delve more into Hook’s past. Hook is a character who has had a dark past, and because of that, it’s another case of a character who is trying to fight for a continual happy ending, must come to terms with what they’ve done in the past and see that there may also be come unexpected consequences with that in the future.
KITSIS: Hook is a pirate who has lived hundreds of years traveling the many worlds, so there are a few people in the Land of Untold Stories that might have a past with him.
What are some of the themes that you guys are exploring this season?
KITSIS: Some of the things that we’re exploring are what is a happy ending? We’re exploring fate, destiny, the future, what does that future mean? We are also really exploring the demons within ourselves. Can you just separate the darkness or is the darkness a part of us and we need to be both? We’ll see Regina is literally facing herself, but I think that could apply to anyone. We know with Rumple and Gold, we know everybody has the darkness in there, demons in their past that they’ve come to terms with.
With all that’s going on, what does the dynamic between Emma, Regina and Snow look like this year?
KITSIS: One of the nice things about having five seasons of the show is that there’s a lot of history now from the characters. This really is a family that has come together. Henry’s dream in the beginning was to bring everyone together, and I think in a lot of ways he has, but this year they’re going to be tested from their past. If there’s one thing the Evil Queen hates it’s Snow White — Snow White and other people’s happiness.
Snow and Charming are the original characters we fell in love with. What would you say is going to surprise us about their story this year?
KITSIS: Well, it’s hard to say what would surprise you about this story this year.
HOROWITZ: Without giving away the surprise.
KITSIS: But what I sense is that, as you said, this all began with Snow White being woken up by Charming, and we very much would like to see a lot of Snow and Charming this year.
Lastly, will the dwarves finally get a story this year?
KITSIS: Oh, 100 percent. You are absolutely going to see Leroy (Lee Arenberg) and the dwarves are back at it. We’re going to learn the fate of Dopey.
Once Upon a Time returns Sunday at 8 p.m. ET on ABC.
Welcome back for season six, Oncers!
After a long, magic-free summer, we’re pleased to say that Once Upon a Time returns to our lives this Sunday on ABC with a heart-pounding, gut-wrenching, body-shaking, epically jam-packed premiere. (Seriously though, it’s insane!)
We already caught up with the cast of OUAT at Comic-Con to bring you some spellbinding scoop on what’s coming up next, but now it’s time to focus on the swoon-worthy side of things with our very first Romance Rundown of season six!
Once Upon a Time creators and executive producer Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis held a special press Q&A session earlier this week, and spilled everything you need to know about all of your favorite pairings before tuning in to Sunday’s big debut.
MORE: Will Robin Hood Return in Season 6? Bosses Reveal the Shocking Truth!
Snow and Charming: Oncers know that over the past few seasons, Snow and Charming’s story has been a bit sidelined. (Through no fault of their own, of course! Ginny Goodwin has just been a little preoccupied with her two real-life pregnancies.) But now it’s time to fully welcome the most iconic fairy tale couple back into the spotlight with a glimpse at their new-normal life.
“In the last few seasons our characters have been going on journeys — whether it’s to Neverland or the Underworld — and now they’re back in Storybrooke trying to make a life for themselves there,” Horowitz explained. “So we’re trying to do more of what the daily life is and what normal is.”
He continued, “In an early episode you’re going to see Snow White ask the question of, ‘What is normal? And how do we get back to it? That’s something that she and Charming strive toward and, in doing that, it allows us to kind of see these characters we enjoy writing for pop in and out of their lives.”
Additionally, we’re going to see Snow and Charming address the idea of what a “happy ending” truly is and what that really means for their family. Kitsis teased, “These stories often end with ‘happily ever after,’ which means they go on, but they very rarely say ‘The End.’ There’s no period at the end of it, so how do you live your life like that?”
Rumple and Belle: We truly hate to tell you this (because we seem to have to say it every year!), but it looks like Rumple and Belle are in for a gut-wrenching tumultuous ride in season six.
“I think that Belle really kind of is in a place where she’s really given up on Rumple,” Kitsis explained. “But they have a child, so it makes these things messier. Once a child is involved, you actually have to put aside your own feelings and put the child first, no matter how much you hate the other person. And that is going to be tested.”
Whoa! Hate? Hmm… that seems a little strong, so Kitsis was quick to clarify his words. “I wouldn’t say she hates him,” he corrected himself. “I would say she’s severely disappointed and she seems very angry with him.”
Before you start to riot in the streets of Storybrooke, Horowitz reminded viewers that there is a fine line between love and hate. “They’ve had that love between them,” he said. “And she’s really struggling now with how to move forward in life because Rumple has positioned himself in a position where it appears to be an unrepairable relationship, so Belle really has to figure out, ‘How do I give birth to this child and raise it?'”
On the bright side, we will tell you that there are plenty of seriously swoon-worthy Rumbelle throwback moments in Sunday’s premiere — complete with a familiar gold dress, a teacup and a shocking twist.
Killian and Emma: Now that Emma and Killian have had their romance-filled reunion after that hellish experience in the underworld, their honeymoon phase is, unfortunately, coming to a close. (Hey, it was a pretty romantic ride for a while there!)
Emma will be dealing with a jaw-dropping, heartbreaking issue over the course of this season, but rather than sharing her burden and fears with Killian, she’s going to revert back to her old ways.
“What we’re trying to explore is sort of these gray areas,” Horowitz said. “It’s a lie that’s coming from a good place in her mind, but he’s probably not going to feel that way if he finds out.”
“When Emma has a problem, she reverts back to season one and those walls go up and she’s like, ‘I’ll figure it out myself. I don’t need to tell anyone,'” Kitsis added. “The journey for her and Hook — now that she said last year, ‘I love you,’ — we thought, well, if you’re letting that wall down and all those good things to come in, all the bad things are going to come in. That push-pull is kind of what’s going to be driving them.”
Regina: Earlier this week, we filled you in on how Regina will be “dealing with loss and moving on” after the tragic death of Robin Hood — especially after the creators pretty much confirmed that he will not be brought back to life — and now, it’s time to focus on Regina’s heroic future.
Horowitz said, “The goal of the show is to not just have it be a happy ending but to move past it.” As Regina strives to move on from losing her loved one, we’ll be seeing a “different kind of hero” as she comes to grips with what life is like without her evil side.
“Regina is embracing the idea of hope,” Horowitz said. “Separating the Evil Queen out of her is something we’re really going to dive into and exploring just how different is she and what has changed really? It’s going to change her and make her grow and make her face things that she hasn’t faced yet before.”
We will be seeing Regina (and her evil alter ego!) in a lot of sisterly scenes in Sunday’s premiere, but her new dynamic with Zelena is not going to be a smooth one. “[Zelena] is dealing with the fact that she’s got a kid and she’s got this kind of complicated relationship with Storybrooke in general,” Kitsis said. “So with the evil queen coming in, it’s a wild card and how she’s going to react to [her], we’re sort of leaving it a little open-ended intentionally.”
Bonus OUAT Scoop: “I think this show has always been about a family,” Horowitz stressed. “There’s a lot of romance, and I think you’re going to see the first few episodes have a lot of that romance in them, but at the end of the day, the curse was broken between son and a mom. Family comes first on this show and that is important to us.”
Season six of Once Upon a Time premieres Sunday, Sept. 25 at 8 p.m. ET/PT on ABC.
Having recently explored Camelot and no less than Hell, the heroes of ABC’s Once Upon a Time will spend Season 6 “back home” in Storybrooke — where they just got some uninvited (and perhaps restless) guests.
With the season premiere arriving Sunday at 8/7c, TVLine spoke with series creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis about telling Aladdin’s and other “untold “stories, Emma the Savior’s discovery, the Evil Queen’s “delicious” attack plan and so much more. (Yes, excerpts of the following have previously appeared on TVLine.)
TVLINE | First off, what is the theme for Season 6?
EDDY KITSIS | I think that this year, the theme is really about the duality of ourselves.
ADAM HOROWITZ | What we really want to explore is who we are, and what are the conflicting things within ourselves that make us who we are. With the Evil Queen being split, it’s taken to a literal level, as we see the two halves of Regina go at each other. But with each and every one of our characters, we want to have that theme hit in a way where we say, “OK, who are these people? What are the conflicting parts of themselves?” And that goes to one of the cores of the show, which is good and evil and “happy endings” aren’t what they seem in these fairy tales. All of our villains have good in them. And all of our heroes have villainous tendencies in them. We wanted do in a season where we’re back in Storybrooke and take that as an opportunity to dig into each one of our characters and explore what makes them tick. Can you correct these mistakes inside of you, or are they a part of you? Can you really take evil out of you? Or is it more complicated than that?
TVLINE | For your purposes, what is an Untold Story?
KITSIS | It is a story that has yet to play out. You’re going to see that a lot of people went to the Land of Untold Stories because they wanted to literally push “pause,” like they were watching their own life in TiVo. And whereas when the Dark Curse paused you, you had no choice, these are people who chose it for different reasons — out of fear, out of not wanting to face something. We want to explore the idea of: Does the story continue on, or does it have that ending point?
HOROWITZ | In Season 1, much of it was about these stories we knew that ended in a certain way, and what happened after. This is a slight tweak on that idea, which is: What happens to some of these stories if they don’t quite finish the way we thought they did, and were suspended midstream? What would make characters want to suspend their stories? And what would happen once they restarted? What you will see is that as their paused stories begin again, that has implications for them and for our Storybrooke characters.
TVLINE | Why is lording over Storybrooke so important to Mr. Hyde (played by Smallville‘s Sam Witwer)?
KITSIS | It is the place where he can have his story play out. When we get into his backstory, you’ll realize that some people may be in the Land of Untold Stories in a way where they’re “trapped.” So, similar to the way Hook wanted to get to the Land Without Magic, so he could kill Gold, you’ll realize Hyde wants to get to Storybrooke so that his story can play out.
TVLINE | If I’m anyone else from the Land of Untold Stories, what do I gain from the move to Storybrooke? Or might I be upset about it?
HOROWITZ | Well, it might be a gain, and it might be a loss — it depends on the character.
KITSIS | There are some who will definitely need Emma and the heroes’ help, and there are some who will be looking to darker forces.
TVLINE | Do the heroes view them as interlopers? Is this an immigration issue?
KITSIS | [Laughs] What you will be seeing is our heroes wanting to help. We see Emma really back in the position where she’s a Savior trying to help people find their happiness. Last year, we got into the Dark One mythology, and this year you’re going to see the Savior mythology — as we saw at Comic-Con [in the first teaser], she wasn’t the first one. Aladdin (Deniz Akdeniz) is one, as well. It’s really Emma and the Yellow Bug riding around Storybrooke helping people, which is what we wanted to come back to this year.
TVLINE | Is Emma a bit disenfranchised by this “other Savior” reveal, or does she find it interesting?
HOROWITZ | Her reaction runs the gamut of a few things, some of which we don’t want to spoil. But there are positives and negatives with learning that she wasn’t the only one, and she’ll have to deal with both.
TVLINE | Where are we entering the Aladdin story, in the scheme of what we already know about it?
HOROWITZ | It’s a tricky question to answer. Given the nature of our show with flashbacks and different timelines, we may be entering it at multiple points. Where we see [the story at] in the premiere episode is a very different point from where we enter it later in the season.
TVLINE | How might Regina assist Emma on her latest Savior mission?
KITSIS | In Season 1, we had Emma trying to help the citizens of the town find happiness while fighting the Evil Queen. Now she’s got Regina on her side to help her.
TVLINE | Is it safe to say that Emma and Hook’s relationship may go untested for a bit, after the trip to Hell and all?
KITSIS | We are definitely going to be moving their relationship forward, but no relationship is a fairy tale. So if people are expecting no drama, we hope that they will enjoy what we are showing. But they’re going to be working together as a unit.
HOROWITZ | We pick up pretty directly from where we left them at the end of last season, where for the first time Emma was professing her love without the duress of a life-or-death situation. Of course, life-or-death situations come pretty quickly on our show, so that will change, but I think that was an important step for her and it is something the two of them will deal with and explore further. Does that mean there won’t be challenges? No, there are plenty of challenges ahead, as with every relationship. But they have made a certain amount of progress since last season.
TVLINE | Is the purely Evil Queen’s plan going to be subtle, will it be stealthy?
KITSIS | It’s going to be delicious. She is going to attack them with style and with grace you would expect from the Evil Queen.
TVLINE | Was Regina’s magic weakened at all, by splitting off her evil half?
HOROWITZ | The question of what this split has done to her magic is addressed very quickly. She’s dealing with many different ramifications to the split, and what it does to her magic is one of them.
TVLINE | It’s my understanding Season 5 Finale Ratings that the Evil Queen set in motion some sort of “fail safe” back in the day, that may sneak up and bite the Charmings on the butt…?
HOROWITZ | There are things from the past that she set in motion. Absolutely. There is in fact a very specific thing from the past that she set in motion that comes back into play in the present.
TVLINE | Something about a long-believed truth being called into question?
HOROWITZ | Yes, in the first couple of episodes that happens.
KITSIS | This is an Evil Queen who has all of Regina’s memories, and now that she has been unleashed, she’s got a whole new set of plans to destroy their lives.
TVLINE | To be clear, Rumple’s challenge is to break Belle’s sleeping spell, not to get her out of Pandora’s Box.
HOROWITZ | Yes. Getting her out of the box isn’t the issue, because he put her in the box. It’s the sleeping spell she’s under. That is his focus in the premiere.
TVLINE | You’re introducing Morpheus in that storyline. Does he have some sort of skin in the game, whether Rumple rescues Belle or not?
KITSIS | He sure does, but you will have to see the premiere to understand what that is. I would say, though, that he is highly motivated and emotionally involved.
TVLINE | Will Robert Carlyle’s off-season haircut be explained?
HOROWITZ | Absolutely And the answer isn’t that he went to do Trainspotting 2.
TVLINE | “Rumbelle” fans want to know if they will see any warm, fuzzy parents-to-be moments.
KITSIS | We’re always rooting for them to get them, but we’ll just have wait and see what happens. But I could tell you the ride there is pretty bumpy.
HOROWITZ | They certainly do spend some time, though, reminiscing, and discussing what it’s going to mean when their child is born.
TVLINE | What will Zelena be up to? At Comic-Con, Rebecca Mader teased some sort of “falling out” between the sisters.
KITSIS | Well, she feels torn between two sisters. She’s always wanted one, but…
HOROWITZ | Now she’s got two!
TVLINE | All told, would you say you’re almost doing a Case of the Week format, with the Untold Stories characters?
KITSIS | We did want to go back to the Season 1 modality of “heroes helping someone with a problem,” so there will be larger arcs with each character, but they’re going to be character arcs. And we’re going to have kind of a mix between the mythological, serialized episodes and ones that are kind of like Season 1 with Cinderella, where there was a beginning, middle and end to it.
HOROWITZ | And when we do that sort of Case of the Week story, it’s always thru the prism of our main characters. When we met Cinderella, it was really about Emma and how she came to be the person she is. It’s about finding these reflections on our main characters. Sometimes it’s a case where there’s a connection between them, like in the upcoming Hook/Nemo story, and sometimes there are stories where it’s more of a character reflection thing between one of our main characters and one of these other characters. But the goal is to have fun with these stories and at the same time dig a little deeper into our heroes.